Hello, All!

Domain Expiration Report

https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics/domain-expiration

Maybe I could even send automatic netmail notifications to Syops if their domains are about to expire!

Or would that be considered spam? Not sure.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Dmitry,

On Friday February 13 2026 02:02, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

As far as I remember, several important Fidonet domains were
lost because someone didn't pay the bills on time :)

Such as?

Fidonet.org is up for automatic renewal...

fidonet.net was lost, if I remember correctly.

It was indeed, that part of your memory is correct.

What you missed is that having the domain expire was an intentional act of the keeper to rock the boat. So a netmail warning would not have had the intended effect.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Dmitry,

On Friday February 13 2026 02:42, you wrote to me:

https://nodelist.fidonet.cc/analytics/domain-expiration

vlist.eu is missing...

Ah, the information that can be obtained for .eu domains with WHOIS protocol is very limited, which is why it wasn't properly displayed. Fixed!

Still missing...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Dmitry,

On 2026-02-13 02:00:03, you wrote to me:

As far as I remember, several important Fidonet domains were lost
because someone didn't pay the bills on time :)

And would a reminder netmail have helped in these cases?

FidoNet has no spam, so important notifications are probably easier to notice

But were those 'important' domains used by nodes? So your automated netmails would have worked for those expiring domains?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Dmitry,

On 2026-02-13 03:07:54, you wrote to me:

378 Domains in that list, seems on the low side when there are over
800 nodes in the nodelist...

Many nodes share the same second-level domain name.

That's probably it. There are lots of nodes using binkp.net, and dynamic dns domains...


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

13 Feb 26 11:41, you wrote to Dmitry Protasoff:

That's probably it. There are lots of nodes using binkp.net, and
dynamic dns domains...

It was recommended to me, to stop using it. I somehow liked that, because is working without nodelist, but true is that we probably do not want to be dependent so much on other party.

At the end I have: 1) still valid binkp.net but 2) in nodelist I present real machine..

Karel

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Hi Karel,

On 2026-02-13 13:27:49, you wrote to me:

That's probably it. There are lots of nodes using binkp.net, and
dynamic dns domains...

It was recommended to me, to stop using it. I somehow liked that, because is
working without nodelist, but true is that we probably do not want to be dependent so much on other party.

Less dependencies is better! ;-)

At the end I have: 1) still valid binkp.net but 2) in nodelist I
present real machine..

I think that is good practice.


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello, Michiel!

Friday February 13 2026 10:34, you wrote to me:

Ah, the information that can be obtained for .eu domains with
WHOIS protocol is very limited, which is why it wasn't properly
displayed. Fixed!

Still missing...

Yes, it was waiting in the queue for the next test and now it's finally there.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, Wilfred!

Friday February 13 2026 11:38, you wrote to me:

FidoNet has no spam, so important notifications are probably
easier to notice

But were those 'important' domains used by nodes? So your automated netmails would have worked for those expiring domains?

The idea was to send a netmail on the last day before the domain expiration :)

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, Wilfred!

Friday February 13 2026 11:41, you wrote to me:

Many nodes share the same second-level domain name.

That's probably it. There are lots of nodes using binkp.net, and
dynamic dns domains...

Most popular domain is synchro.net, wow!

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello Dmitry,

On Friday February 13 2026 13:52, you wrote to me:

Ah, the information that can be obtained for .eu domains with
WHOIS protocol is very limited, which is why it wasn't properly
displayed. Fixed!

Still missing...

Yes, it was waiting in the queue for the next test and now it's
finally there.

Ah, now vlist.eu is flagged with "Unknown" for the dates...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Dmitry,

On 2026-02-13 13:54:43, you wrote to me:

Many nodes share the same second-level domain name.

That's probably it. There are lots of nodes using binkp.net, and
dynamic dns domains...

Most popular domain is synchro.net, wow!

And in third place: bnbbbs.net with 10 entries. But those are all from one sysop... :-/


Bye, Wilfred.

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And in third place: bnbbbs.net with 10 entries. But those are all from
one sysop... :-/

One can never have enough entries in de nodelist, I suppose ...

\%/@rd

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Hello Ward!

14 Feb 26 00:22, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

One can never have enough entries in de nodelist, I suppose ...

That point of "to send warning" - in general, sounds like spam. I would expect, I should agree first to get netmailed (enable that service) than by default to start getting it. Also - for example - in .cz expired domain is 30 days still covered (everything is still working) which could be business model here.

In detail I think - for consideration: who is reponsible for "not valid" entry in segment? Shall we start include that step/check in makenl process?

Karel

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Hello Ward!

14 Feb 26 00:22, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

And in third place: bnbbbs.net with 10 entries. But those are all
from one sysop... :-/

One can never have enough entries in de nodelist, I suppose ...

I would be happy to offload several of those nodelist entries, once I find qualified sysops to take a few of these NC hats.

Andrew

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Andrew Leary wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

One can never have enough entries in de nodelist, I suppose ...

I would be happy to offload several of those nodelist entries, once I
find qualified sysops to take a few of these NC hats.

I think maybe his point was - does each little individual state in N.E.
need it's own network, most with only 1 node in it? Does CT really need
to be two different nets? ;-)




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Hello Dmitry,

Friday February 13 2026 15:13, I wrote to you:

Ah, the information that can be obtained for .eu domains with
WHOIS protocol is very limited, which is why it wasn't properly
displayed. Fixed!

Still missing...

Yes, it was waiting in the queue for the next test and now it's
finally there.

Ah, now vlist.eu is flagged with "Unknown" for the dates...

magicbbs.eu and theforze.eu are missing.


Cheers, Michiel

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Re: Re: New report on nodelist.fidonet.cc
By: Ward Dossche to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Feb 14 2026 12:22 am

Hey,

And in third place: bnbbbs.net with 10 entries. But those are all from one sysop... :-/

One can never have enough entries in de nodelist, I suppose ...

Why does Fidonet still need to be "geo" based?

The pool of available, and capable, Hubs/NC/RCs has deminished over the years, but those that are available and capable are probably sufficient to serve the whole network.


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Hello, Michiel!

Sunday February 15 2026 11:44, you wrote to me:

Ah, now vlist.eu is flagged with "Unknown" for the dates...

magicbbs.eu and theforze.eu are missing.

Yes, unfortunately. I (nodelist.fidonet.cc software :) do domain WHOIS lookups only when a node is checked for connectivity, so they should appear after the next scheduled test. The .eu domain fix was applied about 3 days ago.
Just checked: theforze.eu is already there, magicbbs.eu will be there tomorrow (I hope so).

Thank you again for the in-depth analysis of the test results! I am too lazy/busy for that :)



Best regards,
dp.

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